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Carlyle's avatar

I read the whole thing, and though I won’t pretend I followed everything you were saying, MUCH of it struck a chord of truth. It set me to thinking where I fit in all of it, imagining your groans as I reveal my inevitable connections to the (poor, in my case, but) educated class. I’ve been writing to try to tease out where I belong in the great mystery of complexities of race in my family, work relationships, and friendships. And how do I define myself in relation to religion? I am not an atheist, but I don't embrace any one organized religion. I do not respect those who claim religion but act against the values they claim to love. Politically, where are my people? Bernie is still the closest point of comfort. But my greatest joy comes from being in the woods where I am lucky to live, being with beloved humans and animals, and being useful when possible. In the past, I may well have been burned as a witch. when I read there was a surge of misogyny after trump won, I wondered if the practice might re-emerge.

I did enjoy when I got to the end of your post, there was lunchy all delicious as could be.

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Alan Cliffe's avatar

What do you think left-wing atheists should do? Convert? Pretend to convert? Have you seen or heard about many such ones getting in the faces of working-class people, white, black or Latino, about the latter's religious beliefs? Should we adopt a diplomatic silence about Christian nationalism, or, to call the latter by another name, the tribalist Christian garb that C21 U.S. fascism wraps itself in? I've been reading your work for many years, since before your conversion, and I'm pretty sure you consider the latter a Constantinian heresy. What, then, is one to do or say when working-class Christians of whatever political stripe are in earshot? Expound on why Catholics and black Baptists have got it right but the white evangelicals don't? I'm not saying an atheist can't be a theologian, but I don't know how many atheists really feel that they're qualified as such, or that they have a stake in theological disputes.

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